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	<title>Comments on: Obligatory Hijab Post: Ye Arab Feminists, Get Out of Thine Boxes</title>
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		<title>By: Nausheen@ hijab</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think covering their body and wearing hijab was told to every woman by the Prophet (PBUH) at that time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think covering their body and wearing hijab was told to every woman by the Prophet (PBUH) at that time.</p>
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		<title>By: A Woman&#8217;s Status under Roman Law and in the Early Church &#124; ancientworldtour</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This head-covering, or veil, is commonly thought to be an isolated feature of Islam, but rather has .... These New Testament passages should be understood in terms of contemporary Roman society. These teachings were directed at actions “on the boundary between the private and the public, the house-church, and the outside world.” Id. at 145. In Roman society, veils were symbols of a woman’s marriage and some writers identified them as required clothing.  B.W. Winter, Roman Wives, Roman Widows: The Appearance of New Women in the Pauline Communities, p. 78 (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company 2003).  The veil marked authority of a man in marriage, and removing it in public was interpreted by society as rejection of that authority. Valerius Maximus writes that a Roman man named Gallus told his wife: “To have your good looks approved, the law limits you to my eyes only.  For them assemble the tools of beauty, for them look your best, trust to their closest familiarity.  Any further sight of you, summoned by needless incitement, has to be mired in suspicion and crimination.” Id. at 82. Removing the veil in public was grounds for divorce; however, Valerius considered divorce over this issue an example of “frightful marital severity.” Id. The Roman veil was tied up in concepts of modesty, which were probably related to Paul’s discussion of “the angels.” Paul was probably concerned about outward appearances and chose to instruct his churches to err on the side of Roman societal conservativism.  MacDonald, Early Christian Women and Pagan Opinion at 146.a.  Rather than arising from an ideology within the church, customs of sexual bias seems to have been superimposed from without by Roman society.  The Christian requirement of the veil was probably an attempt to remain above criticism from non-Christian Romans by exemplifying the Roman society&#8217;s virtues in addition to the morality imposed by the Christian religion. Early Christian groups as well as Roman society at large required women wear veils. This is a practice not isolated to Islam. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This head-covering, or veil, is commonly thought to be an isolated feature of Islam, but rather has &#8230;. These New Testament passages should be understood in terms of contemporary Roman society. These teachings were directed at actions “on the boundary between the private and the public, the house-church, and the outside world.” Id. at 145. In Roman society, veils were symbols of a woman’s marriage and some writers identified them as required clothing.  B.W. Winter, Roman Wives, Roman Widows: The Appearance of New Women in the Pauline Communities, p. 78 (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company 2003).  The veil marked authority of a man in marriage, and removing it in public was interpreted by society as rejection of that authority. Valerius Maximus writes that a Roman man named Gallus told his wife: “To have your good looks approved, the law limits you to my eyes only.  For them assemble the tools of beauty, for them look your best, trust to their closest familiarity.  Any further sight of you, summoned by needless incitement, has to be mired in suspicion and crimination.” Id. at 82. Removing the veil in public was grounds for divorce; however, Valerius considered divorce over this issue an example of “frightful marital severity.” Id. The Roman veil was tied up in concepts of modesty, which were probably related to Paul’s discussion of “the angels.” Paul was probably concerned about outward appearances and chose to instruct his churches to err on the side of Roman societal conservativism.  MacDonald, Early Christian Women and Pagan Opinion at 146.a.  Rather than arising from an ideology within the church, customs of sexual bias seems to have been superimposed from without by Roman society.  The Christian requirement of the veil was probably an attempt to remain above criticism from non-Christian Romans by exemplifying the Roman society&#8217;s virtues in addition to the morality imposed by the Christian religion. Early Christian groups as well as Roman society at large required women wear veils. This is a practice not isolated to Islam. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hajar Zamzam Ismail</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salaams sis, I&#039;m giving you &quot;link love.&quot;  This post is perfect for my head-covering blog carnival. Just wanted to let you know...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaams sis, I&#8217;m giving you &#8220;link love.&#8221;  This post is perfect for my head-covering blog carnival. Just wanted to let you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Br00ke</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post was moved here from my old blog, here are the comments:

Itto:

salam alaikoum sister brooke,
thank you for the post. I agree. and I am happy to wear hijab, alhamdulillah, as I feel much more pure, protected, respected, following Allah’s order, Muslim, feminine, fullfilling my duty… since I wear it.
xxx

Samira:

Assalamualaikum-
exactly! One of the great things about Bullock’s books is not only her thorough deconstructing of anti-hijab polemics (beginning by looking at how post-colonialism creates an inferiority complex that must always work its way towards Western supremacy) but also the way in which she shows the multiple perspectives on hijab from those who wear it.
I think my favorite recent treatment of the topic of hijab was in Ingrid Mattson’s The Story of the Qur’an. Why? Because it is short and sweet. She looks at the ayah in Suratul Nur and says quite succintly “those many Muslim men and women would come to dress modestly and many Muslim woman would wear some type of headcovering.”
So basic.

Br00ke:

Thanks for your comments!

Samira – I kind of doubt I will get to Mattson’t book too soon, so quote away  I should probably read a good review of it at least. Colonial Fantasies by Meyda Yegenoglu is an excellent read. It named many things I have believed only viscerally–which is always nice and reassuring.
Love and Peace

Ginny:

Assalamu alaikum, it’s not only some Arabs who say that hijab is just an “arab thing”, I’ve also talked to many west african (mainly gambian) Muslims who will also tell you the same thing. “oh hijab is just what the arabs do, it’s not part of our culture” and really it isn’t. Not that you don’t have modest dress and all, but not as much covering as, well, perhaps in North Africa. I actually reember someone saying to me that “hijab was not condusive to our culture as traditionally women were out in the fields working and hijab just wouldn’t have been condusive to that kind of work”. Interesting…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was moved here from my old blog, here are the comments:</p>
<p>Itto:</p>
<p>salam alaikoum sister brooke,<br />
thank you for the post. I agree. and I am happy to wear hijab, alhamdulillah, as I feel much more pure, protected, respected, following Allah’s order, Muslim, feminine, fullfilling my duty… since I wear it.<br />
xxx</p>
<p>Samira:</p>
<p>Assalamualaikum-<br />
exactly! One of the great things about Bullock’s books is not only her thorough deconstructing of anti-hijab polemics (beginning by looking at how post-colonialism creates an inferiority complex that must always work its way towards Western supremacy) but also the way in which she shows the multiple perspectives on hijab from those who wear it.<br />
I think my favorite recent treatment of the topic of hijab was in Ingrid Mattson’s The Story of the Qur’an. Why? Because it is short and sweet. She looks at the ayah in Suratul Nur and says quite succintly “those many Muslim men and women would come to dress modestly and many Muslim woman would wear some type of headcovering.”<br />
So basic.</p>
<p>Br00ke:</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments!</p>
<p>Samira – I kind of doubt I will get to Mattson’t book too soon, so quote away  I should probably read a good review of it at least. Colonial Fantasies by Meyda Yegenoglu is an excellent read. It named many things I have believed only viscerally–which is always nice and reassuring.<br />
Love and Peace</p>
<p>Ginny:</p>
<p>Assalamu alaikum, it’s not only some Arabs who say that hijab is just an “arab thing”, I’ve also talked to many west african (mainly gambian) Muslims who will also tell you the same thing. “oh hijab is just what the arabs do, it’s not part of our culture” and really it isn’t. Not that you don’t have modest dress and all, but not as much covering as, well, perhaps in North Africa. I actually reember someone saying to me that “hijab was not condusive to our culture as traditionally women were out in the fields working and hijab just wouldn’t have been condusive to that kind of work”. Interesting…</p>
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